Today’s radio show brought together an intimate, cross-continental conversation with my good friend Melvin Loh and his longtime mentor, Professor Joel Lee, who joined us from Singapore in the evening, their time, morning ours. The discussion explored the evolution of their mentor–mentee relationship, tracing how it began, deepened, and ultimately transformed into a reciprocal intellectual partnership grounded in trust, challenge, and generosity. Melvin reflected candidly on initially resisting Joel’s encouragement to teach—pushing back against the idea before eventually discovering that his mentor had seen a calling he himself could not yet claim. Joel, in turn, described how Melvin now brings him the questions, insights, and moral clarity of his young law students—“a great idea,” as Joel calls it—allowing the relationship to flow in both directions. Together, they challenged conventional assumptions about hierarchy in mentorship, emphasizing that meaningful mentorship requires both parties to move beyond prescribed roles, remain open, and give more than their titles demand. The conversation closed with a musical offering, “Scarlet Begonias” by the Grateful Dead—a tribute to enduring creative partnership, echoing the legendary friendship of Bob Weir and Jerry Garcia and reflecting the shared gifts, mutual listening, and deep respect that define Joel and Melvin’s relationship.



